Comments on: Palestine

By: Asad Iqbal

Asad Iqbal — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:44:19 +0000

Remarkable effort has been done by Caroline Bach therein . Its not only the matter of Palestine which is to be settled down between few factions rather each and every matter which is aroused may be dealt with non-military methods ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

By: Andrew Mousa

Andrew Mousa — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:43:50 +0000

there were a conf for middle eastern Christians youth in Alexandria a friend of me attended it and told me that Palestinian youth keep dreaming of day of recognition of their country but they are greatly depressed of US situation and they don’t think their dreams will come true

By: Renata Pumarol

Renata Pumarol — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:24:47 +0000

You raise very important questions Caroline. Is Palestine ready? does it have the right leadership? Also important issues to take into account is the status of Gaza if Palestine becomes a state and the status of the millions of Palestinian refugees living in other arab states and around the world.

However, when will Palestine be ready? In an ideal world we will wait for all these issues to be solved, but we dont live in an ideal world. The reality is that Palestine has lost hope in the peace process, because it is a dead-end. Israel will not stop expanding its settlements, even though it knows it is a ticking bomb to the peace process, and the US will not stop supporting Israel.

Therefore Palestine has no choice but to seek statehood on its own, I’m sure the PLO knows that it will probably fail at becoming state #194, since the US promised to veto the proposal, but the issue needs to be raised. Because even id it’s denied, Palestine will be recognized by the international community, and the US and Israel will stand alone on the issue, and that is not sustainable for long.

By: Mahmoud A Tallouzi-Palestine

Mahmoud A Tallouzi-Palestine — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:52:19 +0000

Thanks a lot Caroline for the post
As u mentioned the Palestinians dreamed of thier independent state since 64 years
The first day they where occupied by Israel.
now and After 20 years of signing agreements with the Israelis and after the failures to reach an agreement
of peace and declaration of a palestinian right to have thier own state,the time is now to have our independent state
Our dream became true and our leaders are going to the UN to earn an accruded declaration .
Is Palestine ready for that..
We have never been ready as we are today and we do have infrastructure much much more than many countries in the middle east and Africa
And that’s certificated by the national bank.
All we don’t need now is occupation , settlements.
I was in ramallah demonstrations to support our leaders and i saw the brightness and hope in the people eyes
For me And for the millions demonstrating for the state it’s a win win decision to go to UN
We lost alot before and we won’t lose anymore

By: Danny Shaket

Danny Shaket — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:11:49 +0000

Nice post, Caroline.
I can only speak for my people, and will try not to analyze what is going on in the PA. (BTW where is Gaza in all this process? As far as I know, the PA and Hamas haven’t reached an agreement).
We are concerned about the ability of the PA to rule and the chances of it to be undermined by the Hamas. I don’t believe Israelis think that the first thing the Palestinians will do as a state will attack Israel. We are afraid to get a new Gaza strip government model 15 minutes from Tel Aviv, next to the narrow waste of the shore line.
We all know that even if this step in the UN passes in the GA or in the Security Council (in which it won’t), they still don’t have a state, and I believe the Palestinians know that as well. Unfortunately, Israel still occupies the WB, and the settlements still exist there. This means this step is nothing more than a declarative issue, to help shake things up a little. As Adrian Ramos has mentioned above, it will upgrade the Palestinian’s status, which will cause a head ache to the Israeli administration. I also believe it will shake things up with the Israeli public. It is of out most importance that the situation will not deteriorate in to violence, as it will “prove” the skeptic Israeli public what will the a Palestinian state entails. It will play into the hands of a right wing Israeli government which will use it as an excuse to not progress with the process of reaching an agreement. But if it does pass, and help upgrading the status in the UN – it does something more – it roots the Two State Solution in International relations and both within the Israeli and the Palestinian societies.
I’m not quick to talk about “PEACE”. It is something, that will show up after the clouds of fear, mistrust and hatred will disperse.

Anyway, good luck to us all.

By: Miruna Falcaru

Miruna Falcaru — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:41:36 +0000

Välskrivet och klokt sagt..gillar speciellt mycket dina tankar kring begreppet frihet och hur båda sidor tolkar det olika…ett perspektiv som belyser problemet ganska väl tycker jag!!

By: Samina Lindström

Samina Lindström — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:28:02 +0000

Great read Caroline!

By: Adrian Ramos

Adrian Ramos — Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:51:10 +0000

“Palestine is not ready…” Perfect timing is an ephemeral assumption, the time is now.
The implications of the new status given by the UN will affect the reality of Palestine, maybe not a huge impact but definitely will change the reality of Palestine.

It is important to drop the idea of a recognition worldwide, the recognition of a State is done by individual nations and over 100 nations have recognized Palestine, even if Gaza is controlled by Hamas. The “big deal” is the new status that the UN will provide to Palestine as an Observer State, that will increase the prestige and will allow Palestine to sign International Treaties, such as the International Criminal Court (main worry for Israel).

Hope the UN say Yes!

By: Mattias Gronborg

Mattias Gronborg — Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:26:54 +0000

Great post! :) I want to read more of this philosophy. /M